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Summer Sunday School news!

Posted by on Wednesday, June 24th, 2015 in News

I just wanted to let you know that there is full Sunday School this week, June 28th,  and then starting on July 5th we move to our summer schedule.  For the summer there will be no formal Sunday School.  However I have just finished putting together "Busy Boxes".  Inside of these boxes there are lots of choices for our younger members to help them get through worship!  There is one box in the sanctuary and two boxes in the foyer.  

For children who need or would like a little more space to move around or just sprawl out the foyer might be the perfect place.  With the exception of July 5th all other Sunday services will be live fed to the foyer. This means that parents can participate in worship while giving your children the extra space they might need.  

This will give you two options for summer worshipping.  You are more than welcome to stay in the sanctuary and make use of the materials in the Busy Box (located on a table at the back of the sanctuary) there or you may join worship in the foyer.  

For foyer worship:  the Busy Boxes are on the shelf above the coat rack and bibles and hymn books are on the tea cart.


For all Busy Boxes, I just ask that you put everything back in (except for pictures or crafts that were made) and placed back in their spot for use the next Sunday.






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My Report to the Congregation on General Assembly 2015

Posted by on Sunday, June 21st, 2015 in Minister

At the beginning of June, our minister, Scott McAndless and one of our elders, David Krueger, attended the meetings of the 141st General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in Canada. The meetings were held on the campus of the University of British Columbia in the heart of the city of Vancouver – one of the most beautiful urban settings in the entire country.

The meetings were marked by many good things: great conversations, renewals of old friendships and the making of new ones and worthwhile discussions. Both David and I are grateful for the opportunity to attend. 

These are some of the highlights:
· The moderator of the 141st General Assembly is the Rev. Karen Horst. She took on her position with grace and wisdom and fulfilled her duties admirably. We are particularly pleased, of course, that Karen (who once worked at St. Andrew’s when she was known as Karen Timbers) has agreed to be our special anniversary guest preacher this October 25th. Not only will she bring a wonderful message, I am certain, but she will also be bringing us greetings from the assembly and be in a position to share our story with the whole church.
· Worship at General Assembly was wonderful and varied. We had everything from the most traditional service to the most contemporary with a little bit of jazz in the middle. The experience was certainly refreshing and enlivening.
·  Some very important issues were discussed and debated including the environment, end of life, payday loans, truth and reconciliation with First Nations people and our mission. We talked about how we live out our response to these issues in our individual and corporate church life.

One of the issues that came up at the Assembly had to do with Human Sexuality. In the past year, the General Assembly has received a number of
overtures from congregations and presbyteries on related issues. Some were asking for more inclusion of people in the LGBTQ community. Others were asking for restatement of past decisions on the issue.

The General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church, is required to take all overtures seriously and to give serious answers to them. But our church is also very cautious and deliberative especially when it comes to considering any sort of change. So it was absolutely
understood that this year’s Assembly would not be able to answer the overtures that had come to it. Two standing committees of the National Church – the Doctrine Committee and the Justice Committee will be working on preparing an answer to these overtures to bring to a future assembly. They have said that their goal is to have a report for next June.

So the Assembly wasn’t in a position to make any definitive decisions. Nevertheless, we found that it was very important for us to start to engage in a conversation on these issues. During the Assembly, we spent a fair bit of time talking in small table groups and sharing our points of view among people who didn't necessarily agree with each another. It was a very
respectful and helpful conversation where we were able to focus on the things that are important to us and the things that we agree about and also able to understand people who see things differently from ourselves. It is my hope that the spirit that was in those table groups could continue throughout the church in the year to come and beyond.

The Assembly decided to expand the conversation begun in those table groups to the wider church and so it has asked the Congregations and Sessions and Presbyteries of our church to engage in a conversation about the place of LGBTQ people within the life of our church. In addition, they have given to the Congregations and Sessions and Presbyteries the opportunity to share their reflections and their concerns with the Doctrine and Justice committees as they seek to find a way for us all to move forward in unity and understanding as a church.

The session of St. Andrew’s will do its best to lead the congregation through those discussions. In addition, some study materials will be available from the Doctrine and Justice Committees by late October. In the meantime, we would ask you all to pray the prayer that came to David during our discussions in Vancouver: “God, may we all be open to hearing your will. Your will be done.”
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A look at the fun from Sunday’s rainy day picnic!

Posted by on Tuesday, June 16th, 2015 in News

Thanks Glen & Stan for bar-b-quing our lunch! (in the rain?)

The Fellowship Committee provided a very good and tasty picnic lunch.

Celebrating 160 years as a congregation!

Our "indoor" picnic.  Mother Nature didn't quite cooperate.

Time to make pinwheels (thanks Christian Education Committee).

Everyone loves balloons.

Balloons and beach balls - so much fun!
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Scavenger Hunt!

Posted by on Tuesday, June 16th, 2015 in News

At Sunday's (indoor) picnic the children and young people participated in a scavenger hunt.

  This is what they found out about some members of our congregation:

1.     Who sings in the choir?  Amy, Sylvia, Shirley, Heather, Bob, Kathy, Bekah, Jean.
2.     Who helps feed many people in the community? Brenda, Helen, Jean, Shirley, Scott, Richard.
3.     Who has more than 1 brother or sister? Bekah, Jacquelyn, Leona, Scott, Lauren, Mary, Tracey, Julia, Monica, Laura.
4.     Who plays a sport? Steve, Lauren, Isabella, Carter, Olivia, Evan, Paul, Jacquelyn, Julia, Jacob, Jack.
5.     Who plays an instrument? Amy, Jacquelyn, Marsha, Carter, Mary, Zoé.
6.     Who has gone on a mission trip? Joni, Gabrielle, Scott, Stan, Shirley, Jean, Alexis.
7.     Who was born before there was colour TV?  Isobel, Jean, Kathy, Shirley, Heinz, Brenda, Carol, Sylvia, George.
8.     Who likes to build and fix things? John, Tracey, Glen, Giles, Cameron, Kier, Stan, Ben.


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Filming has begun!

Posted by on Monday, June 8th, 2015 in News

Came to work this morning to find that the exit to our parking lot was blocked by a police cruiser.  Filming for the miniseries 11-22-63 has begun.  Do you think we'll see any hollywood stars today?


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Same Words, Opposite Application

Posted by on Sunday, June 7th, 2015 in Minister

In discussions around this General Assembly (not seeking to specifically reflect the private discussion in our table group, of course) I have notice something that is happening around these discussions connected to the place of LGBTQ persons within the church.

I am remarking that in a lot of our discussions we are saying the same things and yet meaning the opposite.

For example, in our discussions I hear people saying, "The most important thing is that we follow the Bible," and everyone absolutely agrees with that.

Some mean, that we must uncritically agree with the passages that condemn homosexual activity.

But others mean that we need to do what Jesus did and go out of our way to accept the outsider and give them a place within the church. They mean that the church is, as Paul taught, a place where all distinctions between people disappear.

In our discussions I hear people saying that we welcome all with the grace and acceptance of Christ but that the process of growing in grace in Christ there is an expectation that a disciple is transformed more into the image of Christ.

When some people say that, they seem to mean something like that when LGBTQ people come to the gospel they will necessarily stop living out their orientation in ways that these people object to.

When other people say that, they have in mind that the God's grace will bring about tranformation in us, often by means of our contact with LGBTQ people.

We all agree that sin must not be afraid of talking about sin and about the damage that it causes. Of course, some are thinking of the sexual sins they see LGBTQ people as committing. Others are thinking of what they see as the sinful hostility or rejection directed againsts some of God's children.

We agree that we must all seek for God's will, but each seems to be thinking that the other group are the ones who really need a new discovery of what God's will really is.

And I could go on.

I'm not sure what I should do with this. Should I rejoice that we all agree in what we say, or should I despair that we just seem to be speaking totally different languages?
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